Friday, July 20, 2007

My A/C install

Let There Be Air
Driving through the San Joaquin Vally in the middle of summer was beginning to get very uncomfortable. With temps up to 120° F, stop and go traffic is like sitting in an oven. It was time to do something. The Pick-N-Pul in Modesto wanted $109 for an AC system. They give a very hefty discount if you take the whole system. I thought about this for a bit, but passed on it and purchased my nephew's 4 door hatchback for $250. It would have a lot more usable parts and I would not have to rush and worry about missing something.

As this was my first time installing AC, I did a bit of extra work and took pictures.
I wanted to be able to share the ins and outs of this project with others who may want to do the same thing.

The first thing I needed to do was prepare my car for the install. I removed the hood, front bumper and the interior.
The front bumper and hood latch support must be removed to install the condenser in the radiator support.
I had been using a PH8A oil filter for a Ford 302 to add oil capacity. I found on the installation of the AC pump, that I would not be able to use it any more. Back to stock for now. I removed the dash and the entire heater unit. I then learned I only needed to remove the thin black convoluted hose that connects the fan unit to the plenum. My son helped me with the tear down of both cars. Give him an electric screw driver and enough time he would disassemble the Eiffel Tower.
Those little hands are nice to have for the hard to reach places. The donor car underwent the same treatment. There is a harness that plugs into the condenser and pump, then runs along the passenger side to the firewall to the fuse box in the engine compartment.

There are two more relays that the AC uses. They plug into the harness as well.
The existing smaller relays are moved to the rubber "socks", and the wires are plugged back in. The new harness and relays take their place, and all the connections plug right in. it is as if all the cars had ac, then they removed the systems. These relays supply the power for the ac pump and the condenser fan. FYI, the fan will not turn on without refrigerant in the system.
This harness also plugs into a connector that runs down through the passenger side fender by the front headlight. This part of the existing harness goes to the passenger side under the dash and is where the inside harness connects. If you have rear window defrost, you may have the inside harness already.
I popped out the body plugs where the ac lines go through the firewall, and made sure to install the drain hose so my floor would not fill with water. The new harness can be seen in the picture.
The evaporator slides in between the fan unit and the heater plenum, with existing nuts holding it in on the drivers side and a bolt on the passenger side. Not shown is the AC controller that slides in the rails on the front of the evaporator. It plugs into the large connector hanging down in front of the evaporator. Once all of the harnesses were connected, I put the dash back in and replaced the interior. Don't forget the heater control bezel with the AC switch. It plugs into that harness too.

Back under the hood.
There is a plug in the side of the intake manifold that needs to be replaced with a temp sensor. Be aware, there is coolant in the hole. The yellow wire plugs into this sensor.






The AC idle solenoid mounts to existing holes and plugs into the ac harness as well. Note where the hoses plug into the throttle body on the donor car, pull the rubber plug from the air cleaner and the throttle body and connect them. These little engines will stall out if you don't raise the idle when the AC is on. The white knob adjusts the AC Idle speed when it is all together.



Bolt the AC pump to the block. You will need the brackets from the donor car.

When I attempted to install the condenser and fan, I found that the radiator support was way out of alignment. A little persuasion with a hammer made everything fit.
Tips:


  • Make sure the system you get is sealed and worked recently. The refrigerant needs to be recovered by a "certified " ac tech. Don't release it into the atmosphere. (This is illegal)

  • When the system is recharged, you can use an R134 retrofit kit, however there needs to be a vacuum on the system to remove all the air and moisture. It may be worth while to have a shop do the recharge.

  • You may want to consider using an after market fan on the condenser. A 10" Fan should do nicely. R134 does not work as well as R12, and a better fan will help. If it is over 110° and I am doing less than 30 mph, it is mediocre at best with the stock fan. It just will not move enough air.

12 comments:

Chad said...

nice, thanks for the guide, im installing a/c in mine too. I used to use the PH8A filter too....you can use the PH3600 filter with the a/c, it is longer but not any bigger in circumference than the stock size.

Jack said...

Glad I could help.

Ryan said...

hey jack

do you remember where the green plug on the left bottom of your interiour picture goes? im installing an a/c in my car right now too

thanks, ryan

Jack said...

@Ryan,
Short answer is nowhere. I went out and checked, it is still hanging in the same place. it may be in the harnes for some accessory or something.

Ryan said...

this was the one thing holding me back from putting my dash back in. thanks a million

King Hernandez said...

How much would you charge to do this!!? If i got all the parts!!? Kingcobraa1@gmail.com

Jack said...

I'm afraid I wouldn't even be able to find the time now. I have a bunch of projects sitting on the back burner of my own. I'm lucky if I can find 3 hours a week to do things.

Jack said...

I'm afraid I wouldn't even be able to find the time now. I have a bunch of projects sitting on the back burner of my own. I'm lucky if I can find 3 hours a week to do things.

Enoch Ross said...

Installing your car’s AC on your own is amazing! I can change a flat tire and fix broken windows, but I’m not too confident touching anything on the engine. Thanks for the useful reminders too!

--Enoch Ross

Geneva Caddell said...

It's great that you can fix some of the components in your car. If you have the tools, the parts, and the know-how, then you're all set. It's a big help since you don't have to spend money for repairs. Still, you have to visit an auto mechanic for a regular tune up. That is to ensure that your car is in good running condition.

Geneva Caddell @ Radiator.com

Jack said...

Honestly, I wouldn't think twice about pulling the engine and striping it down if it were to start making a funny noise. I can yank the engine in 30 minutes if it's not hot. This has to be the easiest car in the world to work on, and there is tons of on line support.

Jack said...

I'll call you if I need a radiator.